Baby trafficking in LM??? Posted by Myranda on March 31, 2014, 6:06 pm Today, a Mexican-America man with Texas license plates, approached Angelica and asked if he could buy her baby!!!! He said the money would solve Eduardo's leg problem and give her remaining children a good life. He told her he would be back with his wife so she could look the baby over! I know this kind of thing goes on all over the world - it was still a shock when it was happening to a close friend right here in our community. Who knows what purpose this man has in mind for Jade (age 1 month)?? If Angelica refuses, is kidnapping his next move? Do you have any friends with babies? Be forewarned! This message is locked.

Re: Baby trafficking in LM??? Posted by jean on March 31, 2014, 6:31 pm, in reply to "Baby trafficking in LM???" Did you witness this?? This message is locked.

Re: Baby trafficking in LM??? Posted by clare lee on March 31, 2014, 6:46 pm, in reply to "Baby trafficking in LM???" Myranda, I happen to know exactly what happened and this is not true. If you would call me at 351 7228 I will give you the correct details. Thanks. Clare This message is locked.

Re: Baby trafficking in LM??? Posted by Jo Anna on March 31, 2014, 7:40 pm, in reply to "Re: Baby trafficking in LM???" Clare, it might be helpful for us all to know more about this. First we have the knife-wieldling woman burgling (sp?) private homes, and now this. You know what happens in the light of too little information . . . people tend to fill in the blanks. This message is locked.

Re: Baby trafficking in LM??? Posted by clare lee on March 31, 2014, 8:24 pm, in reply to "Re: Baby trafficking in LM???" Call me.I have spoken with Angelica and I will be happy to talk to anyone on the phone but I do not intend to have a discourse on the message board in light of the first post. Please do call me. Clare This message is locked.

Re: Baby trafficking in LM??? Posted by john on March 31, 2014, 8:31 pm, in reply to "Re: Baby trafficking in LM???" I have heard enough of this Angelica with her kids. Other people work and don't sit around asking for money. This message is locked.

Re: Baby trafficking in LM??? Posted by helga on March 31, 2014, 8:35 pm, in reply to "Re: Baby trafficking in LM???" Gee, this message board sounds lately like a crime novel... This message is locked.

Re: Baby trafficking in LM??? Posted by Norma on April 1, 2014, 8:05 am, in reply to "Re: Baby trafficking in LM???" I feel sad for the cold hearted. Those who judge are actually the ones who are missing out on the incredible love of this family. A beso from Edouardo is worth more than amilliom pesos! Have you never been homeless with 3 kids to feed, John? Compassion, please! I have heard enough of entitled people whining! It's way more fun to share and love! Lead, follow or get out of the way! This message is locked.

Re: Baby trafficking in LM??? Posted by Myranda on April 1, 2014, 8:55 am, in reply to "Re: Baby trafficking in LM???" Gracias, Norma. And yes, I was there and yes, I understood enough Spanish to get the gist of the deal, and yes, Angelica and I were both shocked! We didn't go to the police immediately as we had an appointment to look at a place for rent. We will go today and give our statement.(although I do not trust them to do much as the knife wielding woman is still at large despite many sightings!) Thanks for those who care and the rest of you? Take a look at your own hearts! What you say reflects the type of person you are. La Patrona de Angelica aka Myranda This message is locked.

Re: Baby trafficking in LM??? Posted by mokita on April 1, 2014, 12:41 pm, in reply to "Re: Baby trafficking in LM???" That heart of yours Myranda,sure is beautiful! This message is locked.

Re: Baby trafficking in LM??? Posted by john on April 2, 2014, 11:29 am, in reply to "Re: Baby trafficking in LM???" ...on only this one?... This message is locked.

Re: Baby trafficking in LM??? Posted by Judith Boel on April 2, 2014, 7:52 am, in reply to "Baby trafficking in LM???" Well, the car does have Texas plates.... Seiously...there is no baby trafficking in LM. Please get in touch with Clare Lee. This message is locked.

Re: Baby trafficking in LM??? Posted by Daniel on April 2, 2014, 9:21 am, in reply to "Re: Baby trafficking in LM???" Most of you people are acting like there is some kind of magic ring around La Manzanilla protecting it from the rest of the world. There isn't, anyone from the world can and does wander into this wonderful town and to think otherwise would be quite naive. It only took me one minute to Google "baby trafficking in Mexico" to get this result. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/05/mexico-baby-trafficking-r_n_1570219.html Here is a whole page of them http://www.google.com.mx/search?hl=en-MX&source=hp&q=baby+trafficking+Mexico&btnG=Google+Search&gbv=1 This message is locked.

IMPORTANT addendum to my post Posted by Daniel on April 2, 2014, 9:47 am, in reply to "Re: Baby trafficking in LM???" I just got a call from Clare who told me exactly what happened in this case that Myranda is talking about. I wish she and Myranda had talked right away about this as it would have straightened the whole thing out. Myranda you really do need to talk to Clare, please call her asap. This is one big miss understanding. This message is locked.

Re: IMPORTANT addendum to my post Posted by Pamala/Gregorio on April 2, 2014, 10:03 am, in reply to "IMPORTANT addendum to my post" YES!!! Myranda you REALLY need to make that call…I would also suggest taking some Spanish classes…You really went over the top on this one. This message is locked.

Re: IMPORTANT addendum to my post Posted by Jeanne on April 2, 2014, 4:54 pm, in reply to "Re: IMPORTANT addendum to my post" What I don't get is why this is a big secret--what really happened. This has been made public by the first posting, but the sorting out--one has to call Clare for that? How weird! I believe our imaginations can take up places that are probably much more inflammatory and bizarre than what actually happened. This message is locked.

I'm with Jeanne Posted by Michael on April 2, 2014, 8:44 pm, in reply to "Re: IMPORTANT addendum to my post" Yea - either tell the story as it happened or kill the thread. This is ridiculous. This message is locked.

Re: Baby trafficking in LM??? Posted by Wendy on April 2, 2014, 8:21 pm, in reply to "Re: Baby trafficking in LM???" Daniel, Thank you for bothering to push the search button on "baby trafficking in Mexico". Interesting link reporting on a 20 year history of the practice. This message is locked.

Re: Baby trafficking in LM??? Posted by Larry on April 2, 2014, 9:48 pm, in reply to "Re: Baby trafficking in LM???" I believe myself to have personal knowledge of all parties to this issue. Here is what I believe to be true. There was no attempt to "buy a baby". Nobody has ever tried to buy a baby in La Manzanilla. The accusations made are very serious ones and need to be handled discreetly. Both sides regret the miscommunications around this. For the rest of us, it is NON OF OUR DAMN BUSINESS. This message is locked.

Re: Baby trafficking in LM??? Posted by Michael on April 2, 2014, 10:28 pm, in reply to "Re: Baby trafficking in LM???" OK - so why the post? Those who have the power delete it, for crying out loud! This message is locked.

Re: Baby trafficking in LM??? Posted by Moderator on April 3, 2014, 6:56 am, in reply to "Re: Baby trafficking in LM???" I have been asked by posters to this thread to remove other peoples post but no one has asked me to remove thier post, which I would gladly do. If I start editing post simply on their content vs violating the guidelines then I would be taking responsibility for what is on this board, which I don't. This message is locked.

Re: Baby trafficking in LM??? Posted by Norma on April 3, 2014, 9:31 am, in reply to "Re: Baby trafficking in LM???" I agree with Larry on all his points and do know all the folks involved. I do believe an exaggeration took place as well as something lost in the translation. Most importantly we are all coming from a place of love for these darling children. I hope Myranda will contact Clare who I absolutely adore! Peace and love! This message is locked.

Re: Baby trafficking in LM??? Posted by j on April 3, 2014, 8:18 am, in reply to "Baby trafficking in LM???" Myranda, why is there silence from you? You opened up your big mouth and you should now set the record strait. This message is locked.

Re: Baby trafficking in LM??? Posted by terry on April 3, 2014, 1:51 pm, in reply to "Re: Baby trafficking in LM???" can´t we all just get along, for most of us this is paradise, however paradise often comes with some unintended drama This message is locked.

Re: Baby trafficking in LM??? Posted by Mike on April 3, 2014, 11:14 pm, in reply to "Re: Baby trafficking in LM???" None of you lot were there, so none of you know what actually happened. Myranda and I were there and she, I, Angelica and the guy in the Texas plated car are the ONLY ONES HERE WHO KNOW WHAT REALLY HAPPENED. The guy in the car isn't saying anything (for whatever reason) and the rest of you are relying on hearsay or are just speculating. Saying "I know what happened" when you weren't there is frankly BS. Here is what really happened. An offer of a large amount of cash was made in exchange for a baby. How, I ask all of you, HOW is this not baby trafficking? It is true that the offer was made "so that she can be adopted" - but - the offer of cash set everyone's alarm bells ringing. There are legal channels for adoptions none of which involve cash payments. It seems to indicate (and now I admit I'm speculating) an unwillingness to follow normal legal procedures, for some reason. Would someone like to explain why? Myranda is one of the most compassionate, loving and public-spirited people on this planet and she did what she thought was the right thing to do, for excellent reasons. So, everyone, just back off and leave her alone. And those of you who think that La Manzanilla is somehow immune from serious crime - in view of recent history which you must all be aware of - you're living in a fantasy world. This message is locked.

Re: Baby trafficking in LM??? Posted by Mike on April 4, 2014, 9:06 am, in reply to "Re: Baby trafficking in LM???" Correction: "How does this not seem like baby trafficking? This message is locked.

Re: Baby trafficking in LM??? Posted by john on April 4, 2014, 9:19 am, in reply to "Re: Baby trafficking in LM???" Get off your high horse Mike. If you have been there than you know it had nothing to do with baby trafficking. This message is locked.

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