Moving the Tianguis
Posted by Pamala/Gregorio  on April 11, 2014, 12:39 pm
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There's a movement a foot to remove the Tianguis from the Jardin on Fridays. Please sign the petition today. If you can't find it, please talk to Linda Mandala. She will fill you in on the details and direct you to the petition. Some of the venders will be in different neighborhoods to talk to the locals and try to get their support too.
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Posted by Daniel on April 11, 2014, 12:49 pm, in reply to "Moving the Tianguis"
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Has anyone talked to the Mayor and found out why (and for sure) he wants
to do this? What is the lodgic behind it?
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Posted by Jo Anna on April 11, 2014, 12:54 pm, in reply to "Re: Moving the Tianguis"
My understanding, from Linda, is that he wants them GONE, FOREVER, not just moved.
I have signed the petition and have sent out an email to friends who might not read about it on the board.
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Posted by mokita on April 11, 2014, 1:14 pm, in reply to "Re: Moving the Tianguis"
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Maybe is time for those people who are doing this to move to their own manzanilla,the tianguis have exist since millennial,is our culture please don't try to change that you live in paradise be grateful .How dare you!
mokita.
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Posted by Jo Anna on April 11, 2014, 1:30 pm, in reply to "Re: Moving the Tianguis"|
Mokita, it seems it is the delegado who is wanting to move or get rid of the tianguis, not the gringos.
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Posted by Daniel on April 11, 2014, 1:31 pm, in reply to "Re: Moving the Tianguis"
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Mokita,
Supposedly it is the Mayor (who has lived in La Manzanilla most of his life)
who is requesting the Tianges leave. I don't think you got that part?
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Posted by Arleen on April 11, 2014, 1:14 pm, in reply to "Re: Moving the Tianguis"
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Moving or Removing Why? We will be back next week
and I think I can speak for the two of us that
we support the Tianguis and the venders.
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Posted by terry on April 11, 2014, 1:57 pm, in reply to "Re: Moving the Tianguis"
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oh no up in arms rally to the strrets, sit ins force those who are doing this horrendous thing to arrest us I will orginazie a sit in we have to stand firm, You clowns this is simply a matter of keeping the jardin open to the public, on orders from la huerta jardins are to reamin open to the public, however this could be the beginning of the end of the world
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Posted by Brenda on April 11, 2014, 5:48 pm, in reply to "Re: Moving the Tianguis"
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I am not in LM at the moment and would like to sign the petition to keep the tiangis in the jardin. It would be a terrible loss to the community. Is it possible to post an online petition?
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Posted by Mike on April 12, 2014, 11:15 am, in reply to "Re: Moving the Tianguis"
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I spoke to the Mayor this morning. He explained that La Huerta is the force behind moving the Tiangus to a location other than the Jardin.
This also affects our local merchants, food vendors,etc., who will not be able to use the jardin for commercial purposes in the future.
I beleive the goal is to restore the Jardin to noncommercial space that is always available for the use of the townspeople.
There is no move to eliminate the Tiangus from La Manzanilla.
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Posted by Scott on April 11, 2014, 2:51 pm, in reply to "Moving the Tianguis"
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Trying to stay out of the local issue of which I do not know the rationale or process, but here is a bigger picture for those who don't know about tianguis:
Tianguis is the Nahuatl word for open, informal, and temporary market. These have existed in Mexico since pre-Hispanic times and for many it is a critical part of the culture as well as a way to generate an informal income. There has been a bit of a conflict in various local Mexican communities about regulating these markets for differing reasons, but usually it is about taxes, product control, safety issues, and legal permits. Some communities want to move the Tianguis to a regular mercado scheme with business licenses, an end to bootleg products, and for tighter municipal control of safety issues. Usually this process is a bit like herding cats - lots of effort but ultimately not always very successful.
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Posted by helga on April 11, 2014, 5:56 pm, in reply to "Re: Moving the Tianguis"
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This would be such a loss. Lots of these vendors are my friends and I would miss this colorful event.
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Posted by Ron Smith on April 11, 2014, 8:50 pm, in reply to "Re: Moving the Tianguis"
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We've been coming to LM each year for ~15 years, and the Tianguis is a special part of our experience there. Each Friday we have an early breakfast at Cafe Risa and watch the Tianguis emerge. Somehow we are able to purchase a bit of something each Friday.
I'm sure that it is a challenge to manage, and hopefully the community is able to extract a bit of money from the vendors for that effort, but not knowing the intricacies of that relationship, I am only guessing.
We truly support the current location, and encourage the continuation of the event.
Ron (and Anne)
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Posted by Nansee on April 11, 2014, 9:41 pm, in reply to "Re: Moving the Tianguis"|
I will also sign a petition or give my proxy to someone to sign for me.
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Posted by Rob Boyes on April 11, 2014, 10:01 pm, in reply to "Re: Moving the Tianguis"
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One of the most charming things about Mexico, for a gringo like me, is the laid back , lack of rules and regulations. Here in Canada , we need a permit and safety regulations and another fee and another permit to do just about anything. Take fireworks for example. As I consider myself a guest when I spend my winters in La Manzanilla, it's not up to me and petitions and rallies can be a pain. But it's sad to see some of that lovely Mexican charm get pushed aside. Good luck to the vendors. And the ones on the beach!!
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Posted by Daniel Hallas on April 11, 2014, 10:07 pm, in reply to "Re: Moving the Tianguis"
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Posted by Sheelagh on April 11, 2014, 10:17 pm, in reply to "Re: Moving the Tianguis"
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Its so great to have the Tianguis in the jardin on Fridays. It brings a lovely vibrancy to the town center. It provides a place for people of all cultures to mingle and get to know each other. And finally there is nothing like the sisterhood of the used clothing tables 
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Posted by Jeanne on April 11, 2014, 10:27 pm, in reply to "Re: Moving the Tianguis"
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I agree with all the supporters of Friday tianguis, especially Sheelagh. I've been the mirror for many a woman on Friday mornings, and made many friends. I'd hate to lose that camaraderie. Consider me signed in support.
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Posted by Vicki and Robin on April 12, 2014, 12:26 am, in reply to "Moving the Tianguis"
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Hola! No one has mentioned that, by moving the tianguis, this will drive people to go to the Melaque market. There they will buy their trinkets and silver and then stop for a coffee or lunch, not in La Manzanilla but in Melaque, and probably visit a Melaque store or two. I recommend Lydia be talked with and Robert at Mariscos and all the owners of the little shops. This will have a spill over affect on them as well.
We left today and signed the petition on the way out. We miss you already!!! (and it's cold here)
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Posted by Jan McArdle on April 12, 2014, 10:56 am, in reply to "Re: Moving the Tianguis"
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If this message board serves as a gateway to a petition to save the Tianguis in La Manzanilla as Daniel suggested, here's my vote. I am out of town now, but feel the Tianguis is an important cultural event that benefits everyone involved. What a shame to have to lose it.
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Posted by Pam &Larry on April 12, 2014, 11:50 am, in reply to "Re: Moving the Tianguis"
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Mike ..... maybe you can re-post you converstion with the mayor. Most readers likely never saw it.
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Posted by Ken b on April 12, 2014, 12:59 pm, in reply to "Re: Moving the Tianguis"
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I agree that it would be a good idea to review Mikes post. There is no officiall intention to remove the tiangis from Lamanz, just to relocate it from the Jardine to another spot. the Casino, as an example.
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Posted by terry on April 12, 2014, 2:03 pm, in reply to "Re: Moving the Tianguis"|
you can not mean that all of these petitions were for nothing, and it was just another case of a story getting out of control,
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Posted by Kushad on April 12, 2014, 8:04 pm, in reply to "Re: Moving the Tianguis"
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Tiaguis is a social event of my week as well as a way I support the kids with there fresh organics and the fruit and veg stands.. Let's keep it at the Jardine!
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Posted by Wendy on April 12, 2014, 8:25 pm, in reply to "Re: Moving the Tianguis"
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I love the Tianguis and the evening vendors in and around the Jardin. They are all part of the vibrant social scene. Do hope they can stay
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Posted by Jo Anna on April 13, 2014, 8:22 pm, in reply to "Re: Moving the Tianguis"|
Well, Terry, perhaps that is all it means . . . though I might also suggest it means that people who are invested in this town (emotionally, psychologically, financially) are prepared to keep asking questions until they have as full a comprehension as is possible.
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Posted by terry on April 14, 2014, 1:33 pm, in reply to "Moving the Tianguis"|
I hope by now every one realizes that it was a decison by La Huerta to keep the jardin open, and not the mayor trying to push them out, I truly hope that no one that signed those petitions faces any backlash, as it is illegal to become involved in the political process as a guest in Mexico
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Posted by carol de Cuastecomates on April 16, 2014, 9:31 pm, in reply to "Re: Moving the Tianguis"
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Terry Not sure, but I do not think that involvement in a community affair, such as the relocation of the market, would qualify as the electoral activity that is illegal. Maybe someone who is more informed can provide further information.
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