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New Immigration Policy

Posted by Mark S on May 5, 2014, 9:27 am
187.146.135.117

I know that folks have posted on the change in immigration laws for one to obtain a "residente temporal" (formerly FM-3). I have heard conflicting stories, one of which is that you have to return to the US to start the application process.

If anyone knows of a definitive site (in English) or has personal knowledge of the new process, I certainly would appreciate that information.

Mark
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Re: New Immigration Policy

Posted by sparks on May 5, 2014, 9:32 am, in reply to "New Immigration Policy"
187.210.230.10

Don't need a site. It's common knowledge that the process starts at a Consulate in your home country. I believe that changed in November 2012

Read it here if you wish - http://rollybrook.com/

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Re: New Immigration Policy

Posted by Mark S on May 5, 2014, 9:51 am, in reply to "Re: New Immigration Policy"
187.146.135.117

Thanks, Sparks.

I checked out the site and was unable to find an explicit explanation of the new procedure.
Any other links or suggestions?

By the way, is the new immigration office in Melaque formerly open for business?


Mark
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Re: New Immigration Policy

Posted by sparks on May 5, 2014, 9:59 am, in reply to "Re: New Immigration Policy"
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Applying at a Consulate:
You MUST apply for a Residente visa at a Mexican consulate in your home country or in a country where you are a legal resident. You cannot change from Visitante to a Residente while in México. This rule applies to first time applications for both Residente Temporal and Residente Permanente.

http://rollybrook.com/how_to_move_to_mexico.htm#visa

Yes the Melaque INM office is open
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Re: New Immigration Policy

Posted by Mark S on May 5, 2014, 10:38 am, in reply to "Re: New Immigration Policy"
187.146.135.117

Thanks, again.
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Re: New Immigration Policy

Posted by lisafern on May 5, 2014, 9:59 am, in reply to "Re: New Immigration Policy"

I plan on applying for the Residente Temporal for the first time. I will be returning to US for a visit in June and can do paperwork. Is there a generous soul in La Manzanilla who could help me understand the process? I can read Spanish. Many thanks! Lisa
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Re: New Immigration Policy

Posted by Larry F on May 6, 2014, 6:44 pm, in reply to "Re: New Immigration Policy"
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The previous information is correct. You can renew a visa in Mexico but need to apply outside the country for a new residents visa, or to renew an expired one.

The immigration office in Melaque is open and the young woman there. Speaks English.
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Re: New Immigration Policy

Posted by Dean & Judy on May 7, 2014, 8:35 pm, in reply to "Re: New Immigration Policy"

I just obtained my temporary visa this morning from the consulate in Portland. It is good for up to four years.
These are the requirements as of 2012 for temporary resident.
Bring one years worth of bank statements.
Bring you're passport.
Pay close attention to you're e-mail as they do business by email. They are required to make you an appointment within ten days, that is the law.
They will e-mail you the appointment time.
If you fail to make the set appointment time, you start the entire process over again. New forms, new bank statements, the whole enchilada.
At the set appointment they fingerprint you, both index fingers and take you're photo.
Pay the $36.00 fee in the consulate, leave with you're visa permanently affixed to you're passport.

That's it.....two week process.


Within 30 days of crossing you are required to check in with the local (any) immigration office, which will grant you FMM status. Do not fail this part of the process, the outcome wouldn't be nice.

Find a consulate here. mexonline.com

Hope this helped..

Dean & Judy
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Re: New Immigration Policy

Posted by Dean & Judy on May 7, 2014, 12:36 am, in reply to "New Immigration Policy"
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See my response below "TEMPORARY RESIDENT" I am going through the process as we speak with the finalization phase tomorrow. Off to the Consulate here in Portland in the AM to run the fingerprint scan, PAY THE $39.00 dollars and obtain the visa.

Need help, shoot me an email. It's a relatively easy process...


Hasta Entonces,

Dean & Judy
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Re: New Immigration Policy and a car?

Posted by Neal on May 7, 2014, 11:07 am, in reply to "Re: New Immigration Policy"

Thanks to all who have provided this valuable information. Taking it a step further I have been trying to figure a way to drive down next fall. Leave by air for Christmas with the family in the States. Return by air after New years and leave in the spring with the car. Is there any combination of paper work that will permit me to do this legally? Thanks Neal
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Re: New Immigration Policy and a car?

Posted by Norma on May 7, 2014, 11:39 am, in reply to "Re: New Immigration Policy and a car?"
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I may be wrong, but on a tourist visa, I think we're allowed to bring a car in as long as we drive it home within 6 months. But if both you and Sue have FM's I defer to those who are experienced in these matters.
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Re: New Immigration Policy and a car?

Posted by sparks on May 7, 2014, 12:21 pm, in reply to "Re: New Immigration Policy and a car?"
187.216.136.10

Tourist Permit or Temporal Visa is the question

Technically you can't do that on a Tourist permit but if you did you'd still have the 180 day limit from first arrival. If they match FMM to your auto permit you may loose the deposit.

If you have a Temporal Visa no problem leaving your car here.
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Re: New Immigration Policy and a car?

Posted by Glen Vannoy on May 7, 2014, 12:30 pm, in reply to "Re: New Immigration Policy and a car?"
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This may have changed but when I got my first FM1 I had to enter Mexico withing 30 days of it's issure or it was nul and void and you had to start over again. No one at the conciliate mentioned this. You might want to check and see if this policy is still in effect.
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Re: New Immigration Policy and a car?

Posted by Neal on May 7, 2014, 3:30 pm, in reply to "Re: New Immigration Policy and a car?"
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Thanks Sparks, Is the Temporal Visa you mention the long term visa I read about recently that you have to get from the consulate that is good for several years as long as no individual stay in Mexico exceeds 180 days.
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Re: New Immigration Policy and a car?

Posted by sparks on May 7, 2014, 7:47 pm, in reply to "Re: New Immigration Policy and a car?"
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The Temporal Visa is good for from 1 to 4 years with no time constraints except when it's time to renew. You could stay the full 3-4 years if that's what you have.

Only tourist permit has the 180 day limit
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Re: New Immigration Policy and a car?

Posted by Neal on May 8, 2014, 1:45 pm, in reply to "Re: New Immigration Policy and a car?"
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Sparks is this Temporal Visa the same one Lisa addresses and Dean and Judy explain so clearly in the other thread on this Message board. And will it solve my issue with leaving a car in Mexico for a quick trip State side. Thanks everybody for all the information
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Re: New Immigration Policy and a car?

Posted by sparks on May 8, 2014, 2:25 pm, in reply to "Re: New Immigration Policy and a car?"
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Yes .... same visa. It will solve your problem with the car for 4 years. After 4 years you move to a Permanente visa and can't have a US plated car
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info here

Posted by Mark on May 8, 2014, 2:40 pm, in reply to "Re: New Immigration Policy and a car?"
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http://www.mexperience.com/living/immigration-mexico.php
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Re: info here

Posted by Jonathan on May 8, 2014, 6:23 pm, in reply to "info here"

Mark, the only nit I have to pick with your reference is that they intimate that Residentes Permanentes may not be able to freely work in Mexico. That, according to my understanding and unless something has changed again, is not true. Our Residente Permanente allows us to do anything a citizen can do except vote (and own a whorehouse, they tell me). We don't plan on working in Mexico, but it is nice to know that I could now with no strings attached.
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Re: info here

Posted by Larry F on May 9, 2014, 12:22 am, in reply to "Re: info here"
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Not true, Jonathan, but correct me if I'm wrong. There are different categories of temporary and permanent visas. Some allow, with permission, for the holder to work. Most of us foreigners has visas that do not permit work ...... Or even receive renumeration for products or services. That includes renting your home, receiving money for conducting classes and so on.

In other words, better check with INM (immigration) and also go see SAT (the tax people) to get a tax number and file.
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Immigration Application

Posted by Mark S. on May 23, 2014, 7:11 am, in reply to "Re: info here"
187.146.141.196

I know that I've seen the reference before to a site where I can fill out an application for temporary residency (the old FM3).

I know that you have to submit the application to a Mexican Consulate in the U.S. and there is one in Sacramento.

I driving our old car up to CA next week and was hoping to take care of the visa issue as well.

Can anyone direct me to a website where I can fill out the application? Hopefully, in English, but my Mexican daughter in law is in town, so maybe that's not a huge issue.

Thanks.
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Re: info here

Posted by Justin R. Sol on May 9, 2014, 7:43 am, in reply to "info here"
189.164.101.159

ALL Residente Permanentes have the right to work.
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Re: info here

Posted by Larry F on May 9, 2014, 10:04 am, in reply to "Re: info here"
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Justin, I'd be very pleased if that was the case. But please give a reliable source of your information.
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FACTS here

Posted by Justin R. Sol on May 9, 2014, 10:27 am, in reply to "Re: info here"
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The 'reliable source of your information' ....
INM when I received my Residente Permanente last June ...
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Re: FACTS here

Posted by ERIN on May 24, 2014, 1:16 pm, in reply to "FACTS here"
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I am going to confirm what Justin has said, I was advised the same, however, if you do start a job you are to advise IMF of where and when you started.
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Re: FACTS here

Posted by Justin R. Sol on May 24, 2014, 4:56 pm, in reply to "Re: FACTS here"
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You must inform the INM of the following changes within 90 days of their occurrence:

• ADDRESS
• EMPLOYER
• CIVIL STATUS
• CHANGE OF CITIZENSHIP
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