Obtaining a Residente Permanente Visa
Posted by Larry F on November 27, 2015, 9:31 am 189.164.126.223
I just obtained my Residente Permanente Visa and thought others might be interested in the process. Everyone holding a Residente Temporal (formerly the FM3) likely knows that after 4 years you will have to take out a Residente Permanente, or give up your Residente Temporal and get a tourist visa on each visit to Mexico. The nice thing about getting the Residente Permanente is that you will never have to go back to the dreaded IMN office to renew each year. No deadlines, fees and penalties around renewal. Other advantages include exemption from capital gains tax on house sale, ability to earn income in Mexico and obtain a tax number, and of course also get Mexican citizenship. Step One: go to the IMN office in Melaque with Residente Temporal card and your passport. You will sign application forms and be sent to the Banamex bank to pay a fee of about 1200 pesos. Returning with bank receipt in hand, you will be told that you will be informed by email within 3 weeks to return with your paperwork, photos (available down the street) and identification. Step Two: upon receiving notice by email of approval, you return the the IMN office with photos, previous paperwork and identification. You are then sent to the bank to pay another 4300 pesos, then sign more papers and get fingerprinted. Step Three: after another 3 weeks you will receive email notification to pick up your new card. The process, aside from three trips to IMN, is painless. For some strange reason, no english is spoken in the office, but one really can get through the process with minimal spanish.
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Posted by Kim on November 27, 2015, 2:22 pm, in reply to "Obtaining a Residente Permanente Visa" 198.144.53.21
Last year they did have a person in there that spoke English and was very knowledgeable about the process. They did say when you do become a Resident Permanente you must also register your vehicle, get Mexican plates and a Mexican drivers license. Interesting about the capital gains tax. | ------------------------Re: Obtaining a Residente Permanente Visa
Posted by Dave on November 27, 2015, 2:43 pm, in reply to "Obtaining a Residente Permanente Visa" 198.144.53.21------------------------Re: Obtaining a Residente Permanente Visa
Posted by Larry F on November 27, 2015, 4:11 pm, in reply to "Re: Obtaining a Residente Permanente Visa" 189.164.126.223
Kim is correct in saying that last year there was an enlish speaking person at INM. When I asked her I was told that she was no longer there. The vehicle registration is more complicated. With. residente Temporal, you can get, as I did, permission to keep you foreign-plated car in Mexico until your visa expires. You cannot come down here with a car on a temporary or tourist visa and keep it here past the date of the permit purchased at the border. I'm sure others may have heard other stories. That's Mexico. Dave's article points out what I should have clarified. That is, a Residente Permanante visa MAY get you exempt from capital gains tax. I believe a good understanding of the law, or a lawyer, is required. | ------------------------Re: Obtaining a Residente Permanente Visa
Posted by charley on November 28, 2015, 10:21 am, in reply to "Obtaining a Residente Permanente Visa"
Thank you Larry, I know that one has to apply in Canada for a Residente visa. Can one apply directly for a Residente permanente in Canada........ and have it ratified here within 30 days of arrival in Melaque. or one does have to apply for residente temporal first. The costs you mentioned here are once and for ever or yearly costs......?? If one does not own a house or does not have a paying job........no use to apply for a Residente Visa? what could be the other benefits?
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Posted by Larry Field on November 28, 2015, 12:04 pm, in reply to "Re: Obtaining a Residente Permanente Visa" 187.139.73.154
As far as I know, you MUST apply in your home country for Mexican residency. The counsulate with give you a 30-day visa, not 180 day tourist visa. Within this 30-day period, you make a appointment at an INM office (Melaque in our case) for a Residente Temporal. You cannot start with a Residente Permanante, and must hold a Residente Temporal for 4 years. The cost is once only for a Rsidente Permanante. Residente Temporal visas must be renewed each year at an annual fee. Benefits? If you have no intention of ever being in Mexico longer than 180 days, don't wish to earn any income, and don't intend to buy property, there are likely few benefits. This may be particularly so when one considers that you will pay over 1000 dollars over 5 years to get your Residente Permanante. The issue of income is unclear to me. Technically, any income is income, including selling your services, and everyone who earns income is required to have a tax number and pay taxes, if applicable, on that income.In reality, I understand that the new Mexican tax structure is a mammoth undertaking that will takes years to implement and enforce,
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Posted by Mark S on November 28, 2015, 1:58 pm, in reply to "Re: Obtaining a Residente Permanente Visa" 187.139.64.78
18 months ago I went to the Sacramento Mexican Consulate and was told I could apply for a residente permanente visa without first having a temporal. I finished the process in Melaque and received my residente permanente visa. I think Rojo and his wife, Kathy, had the same experience in Idaho. | ------------------------
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