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Re: Cost of Iraq/Afghanistan war passes $ 1 trillion

Posted by Daniel on June 10, 2010, 10:20 pm, in reply to "Re: Cost of Iraq/Afghanistan war passes $ 1 trillion"
Message modified by board administrator June 11, 2010, 12:10 am

Hi Mike,

That was well said.

I recently watched a documentary series called The World at War

Personally I felt that the US should have been involved much sooner than they were
i.e. I was pro war.

When you have someone like Hitler writing something like Mein Kamph, spelling out his plans, lying to Poland, Czechoslovakia etc. I say go get em before he completes his plan. Same with Japan and what ever the name of their world domination doctrine was (I heard it in the series but I forget the name). So I have these gut reactions as to what I felt should be the US response, time to kick ass. But in reality I don't know shit.

I never was into learning when I was in school, the information flowed much to slowly to keep my interest so I rebelled. Now with the Internet I can main line whatever topic I want and its Nerd gone wild. My head is exploding from all the I tell myself suffer you lucky btch and I try to adapt.

There is so much information behind the scenes that I don't know about, much more learning is in order, poco poco. I could link right now to a Google hit, which turned up in the search when I was looking for the name of the Japanese doctrine I was trying to remember. Big I understand it? Have I done the work to find out who disagrees with it and why? No.

Mainly I admit my ignorance and I start there, I don't follow no political party line, I think for myself and question everything.

In your post you said to let the military handle things and keep the politicians out of it. In the Fog of war documentary was this

"McNamara: Mr. President, we need to do two things, it seems to me. First, we need to develop a specific strike plan. The second thing we have to do is to consider the consequences. I don't know quite what kind of a world we'll live in after we've struck Cuba. How do we stop at that point? I don't know the answer to this.

Kennedy: The chances of this becoming a much broader struggle are increased as you step up the ? talk about danger to the United States.

McNamara: Kennedy was trying to keep us out of war. I was trying to help him keep up out of
war. And General Curtis LeMay, whom I served under as a matter of fact in World War II, was
saying "Let's go in, let's totally destroy Cuba."


Take every picture you have ever seen of dismembered bodies, of fathers and mothers crying because their child has become a victim of war and ask yourself if you still believe your statement? Because the military was not allowed to do what it wanted we avoided killing innocent people and possibly starting WW3.

I personally am one who believes the devil is in the details. It's concepts I like and the broader the better. Like the quote that MacNamera mentioned at the end of Fog of War.

We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time.

T. S. Eliot


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